the importance of band setup can not be overstated. This post is to explore different band setups and best match between band setups and ammo.
Mansell Luck (https://www.facebook.com/mansellluck) is a slingshot fan from New Zealand. He is also a DANKUNG slingshot collector. Here is his findings.
This is what I found out which loops are best for what size of ammo
1632 best with 8mm steel ball
1745 best with 12mm steel ball
1842 best with 8mm & 9.5mm steel ball but Heavier pull than 2040
2040 best with 9.5mm steel ball
1745 for me is the best all around, for me handles all ammos very well, fast and holds up, lasts long time, been using 1745 tubes for years, now using 1745 premium, great tubes
1632 Single/Pseudo for BB’s & 6mm plastic
1632 Double 6mm
2040 Double great all-round (9.5mm)
1842 Single/pseudo (9.5mm)
I use 1745 Dankung tubes (traditional, black) with 10-12mm steel balls. I use 4 strands (1 loop on each side of the pouch, attaching to the slingshot 'ears').
These tubes are quite powerful, and they last a lot. They also give ample warning when they are wearing out (when the tubes are degrading they look softer, and the surface becomes irregular, wrinkled). After that, a small tear appears, but it progresses very slowly, it does not snap. I usually replace the tubes when the tear reaches 1/3 of the tube, to avoid issues. Usually the tubes wear first in the middle of the loop, where the rubber rubs the slingshot frame.
I should add that I don’t have much experience with flat bands or other tubes, but I am completely happy with the 1745 tubes.
These setups I use for 3/8" steel and for M8 hex nuts.
Both works very well.
Yup..i did shoot with 1745 with 9.5mm steel balls be4 but the tube was wat too powerful for the size of steels ball than i change to 2040 feel much better, 1745 + 10 - 12mm steel balls + head shot = GG for those pesky Rabbits or Rats.
Sometimes I also set them up as a cocktail set, always have a set at the ready to change for some different setup or situation, forgot to add this in first comment.
Sometimes I also set them up as a cocktail set, always have a set at the ready to change for some different setup or situation, forgot to add this in first comment.
1842 looped with supersure pouch is my choice for shooting 1/2 steel configuration. I have short 33inch draw and 7inch active pull... looking forward 1632 recently ordered.
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Mike
I'm usually shoot only 4.5mm BBs because they cheep and not too dangerous to use in a city. BB are very light so they don't have mass to store energy and only way to get power is to accelerate them as fast as possible, it was a challenge to find fast bands and even harder to find very light but sturdy pouch.
Here what I found to work:
Semi tapered Pure latex .125 Amber tubing works best out of tubing choices, 2040 works barely since they already too heavy for BBs.
But the best choice for speed is tapered flat-bands, I have good results (braking Champlain bottles, piercing can food, killing a rat) with Teraband Black or Blue cut to 20cm length and 2-2.5 cm on one side and tapered to 0.8-1 cm on the other.
As for pouch It was very hard to find thin light leather that wont disintegrate after few shoots, light weighting pouch is essential since it is the biggest factor that will slow down your BB. I come up with a synthetic material that is strong, thin, light and very cheap to make by sandwiching synthetic fabric between two layers of duct tape and then cutting(yes cut all sides since if you just fold tape around fabric the folded edges will develop tears quickly) out needed 1cm wide strips for pouches, I find it helps to use some baby powder on this pouches so they are not sticky.
The last advice To BB shooters; plug converters to flat-bands are great for Dankung slingshots they let you use favorite Dankung slingshot with tubes and makes band changing as quick as tubes but to make your shoots as repeatable as possible try making area where bands attach to fork as thin as possible by folding flat-band into a tube shape
Very Nice and a Very Different way of making a bands, 6mm BB with this kind of speed would still give a human one hell of a Sting coz i've been shot by BB rifle be4 and i did not like that at all..lolz
I use 1632 (looped) to 6mm steel, soft airgun pellets and up to 8mm steel.
I find this band hold more than 3000 shots.
I have only have one band that snappt, and that was after about 5000 shots.
If I have a little bigger pouch, 10mm steel will be fine up to 15m.
Best regards
Johan Karlsson
Stockholm
Sweden
Wow..Really? i never know 1632 can handle 10mm steel ball up to 15m, you are not talking about hunting with it right? Coz i feel 1632 may be a bit weak for 10mm steel ball..
I only shoot on targets, never hunt with slingshot.
After 15m the 10mm steelball start to dropp down to much.
Oh..ok..I was thinking no way 1632 can't carry the 10mm to 15m with nice power, coz as far as i can understand if any one wanted to use 10mm to hunt 2040 are minium or move up to 2040 Cocktail than 1842 or 1842 Cocktail, if still not Satisfied can go 1745 and no 1745 cocktail coz itz Very Very Hard to pull even for my 28-30" short draw.
2040 tube: i use it with no frame setup, 15 inch lenght and 8mm ball bearing..great for plinking..
1745 tube: i use it for my ergonomic dancing dankung, loop band setup or tapered setup with 10mm ball bearing great for hunting bird and dart fishing..
For cheap and light shooting, i use 1632 tapered with .5 grams 6mm BB's ammo .. the lenght is 4inch plus 2 inch tapered.. it can shoot 250fps to 270fps.
My address is the same as order 5137. Thank you
Lloyd
I just love the Dankung bands. It has to be said that I much prefer the Chinese length bands as apposed to the western shooters length.
The only size tubes I have yet to try are the looped 2050's which are on the way to me as we speak.
For me the western shooters tube Lengths are far too long and the pouches far too big and heavy. This leads to hand slap and the need to be selective over which type and weight of ammo to use.
I am currently using 1745 cocktail tubes and all I can say is WOW!
Being shorter than western shooter tubes means I can stretch them to reach their full potential.
Being shorter and the pouches smaller and lighter means no hand slap what so ever.....no matter which ammo I use. I have 8mm, 9.5mm 10mm 12mm steel...12mm, 14mm lead and also 16mm glass marbles. The cocktail bands handle all types with extreme accuracy and a devastating inpack.
Over 2000 rounds in and still on my first set. Really looking forward to getting the 2050 cocktails on my dankung butterfly.
Forget flatbands... I can get through a set of them in less than 50 rounds.
Dankung looped tubes especially the cocktails are unbeatable.
Thank you Dankung.
Wow Mate..i had to give you 200% respect, coz as for myself i am starting to having hard time pulling loop tube 1745 to my draw @ 28" let let alone 1745 Cocktail and 2050 i would say for 1745 its better to use 10mm minium, other wise 1745 Cocktail can Over Power 8mm & 9.5mm very easy.
I find .7 mm precise band 20mm-30mm tapers handle 12 and 14 mm steel excellent fast and accurate
I have singelband 1632 and 6mm steelball to target shoting at 10m
Soft, light and grop werry tight.
It is like a dream to shot.
Hello guys,
I want to tell you, that I have great fun with my Agile Toucan. I band it up with 1745 tube with 20 cm active band length. This is sufficient power to shoot 10 and 12 mm steal balls. Bamm !!! Hmm, I can't fill in any fotos, they are always to big.
Best regards
One of my favourite setup is double Dankung 1632 on my FlatCat.
Double 1632 21 cm active band lenght with 105 cm draw lenght (elongation 500%).
With that setup I can shoot 9.5 mm steel ball with ģreat accuracy and with enough speed to hunting small games with headshot.
After seeing the praise for 1632 tubing on the Slingshot Forum I decided to try some myself. I mostly shoot smaller ammo (.177" BBs and 1/4" steel), so I figured it would work well. My favorite setup for .177" BBs is a pseudo-tapered setup, with about a 1 inch loop and 5-6 inches of single tube depending on your draw length. 6" singles also work splendidly.
For 1/4" steel ball bearings all you have to do is increase the loop size. I find a 1.5-2 inch loop with a 5-6" single is perfect for target shooting.
Along with this, Full 1632 loops have treated me well for plinking with 3/8" steel. Not enough power for anything other than target shooting but lots of fun and easy to make.
I also enjoy 2040 tubing, in either a single strand or small pseudo tapered setup for plinking with 3/8" steel. You could also shoot full looped 2040 but I find that to be too much power for 3/8 steel.
For 1/4” (6.3mm) I use .40 material at 170mm in length, with a 20-15mm taper. I increase material thickness with ammo size but keep the same cut length and taper.
I tried Dankung cocktail tube setup using 1632 tube inside with 20/40 18/42 17/45 , 20/50 outside. 1745 just fits me the best. Making cocktail band just needs practice to master. I can finish one within 4 minutes. Interesting there is an 'offering a reward' about it at
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I am using 9.5mm steel balls. 1745-1632 cocktails have surprising power.
11mm lead ball is heavy, I suggest cut it tapered 13 mm to 23 mm with this
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For BB's 1632 Red - Either single tubes (with a small micrifibre pouch - similar to Liquid Bullet pouches) or with a frame that accepts looped tubes 200-210mm in length with a 50mm pseudo. This is what I do almost 90% of my shooting with. The setup will also handle 6mm steel.
For 9.5mm steel I like 1842 black either in single or with 1/3 taper - this also works for hunting if thats your thing.
What I find the steel ball ranges are for for an archery type draw as a roughy guide.1632 Pseudo - 4.5-6mm1632 Double - 6-9.5mm2040 Pseudo - 6-9.5mm2040 Double - 8-9.5mm1842 Pseudo - 9.5mm1842 Duuble - 9.5mm+1745 Pseudo - 9.5mm+1745 Double - 10mm+